stroke

[olboys]

im new at this and i would like too know more about stroke of the gun :?: ,also id like some opinions on a short stroke too a long stroke :?: .and what would be best for a liner and then a shader. :?:

[txtatz]

well that would depend on preferance. My prefreance is a short stroke for lining and a little bit longer stroke for shading and coloring.
The short stroke allows the machineto run faster. The longer stroke will cause a machine to run slower. I use a longer stroke and drop my voltage some when shading or coloring. Depending on your machine there could be a couple of ways to chage the stroke. On 2 of my machines I put shims under the coils to raise them some to shorten the the air gap( distance between the am bar and front coil when contact closed). The other way is by using the contact srew to change how far the amature bar has to travel to hit the front coil, you can also bend the springs a little more and adjust the contact screw. This is not law though and it really depends on what your comfortable with when lining, shading , or coloring.

[vernon]

I agree with txtatz. THis is also the way i run my machine. The shorter stroke is better for lining. This makes the pull of the armature bar to the coils stronger therfore hitting the skin harder so you can make smoother lines quicker. But, you don't want your stroke too short or your machine will kill out. The same goes for having it too long. Crank back on your contact screw to where it has a good buzz 8) haha. When you are shading. This sets the machine to where it hits the skin lightly so as you don't turn it into beef jerkey.

When I do coloring I keep my machine set up as I am lining and just add another rubber band. I barely let the nedles hang out the tube when the machine is running. About 12 volts.



Later........................

[Anonymous]

I just run one machine , set the gap a little more thatn a nickels width , and turn it up to around 9 volts , and I set the needle out the tube a good 1/8 th inch while she's runnin . Works fine for me , I just got used to doing it that way .

[vernon]

I don't know what type of machine you are running but I'm pretty sure the more volts of power you have the faster your machine is going to run. 100 watt bulb is brighter than a 40 watt. Or maybe I'm just wack.

[imported_NeedleJack]

Thanks Froze - appreciate what you brought to the table

[FROZETATTOO]

no problem jack. i'd like to get one of your machines soon. your iron machines look really good . i want to give one a try when i can. i can't help it , i love tattoo machines ! shop mouse will kill me . i just ask her what do i do if all the rest of my machines break ? 15 of them ,ya what do i do then?ha ha !

[a1tattoo]

wow. lots of misinformation going on here.

vernon, voltage effects how hard the machine hits, not the speed. speed is determined by several things and voltage is not one of them.

[inked]

A1 ,o.k. man ,i'm wondering if what your saying is Froze is wrong?i don't think so. you set your sring tension around 400 to 420 grms . look at the side when the machine is running at the springs as discribed. this has been used for as long as i remember,Danny Fowler uses this method on his machines to my suprise,i originally learned this from the best tattoo artist i ever met,this was before all the eikon tech stuff was available. which is cool too. cause every bit of knowlege to master your craft counts.the set-up i just mentioned is for a liner of course.and it works for me. everyone is differant !!!!!! what your telling vernon is right ,voltage don't make a faster machie.