frequancy

[DOPPLENHAKEN]

i was thinkin about streatching my lobes,is it like a constint pain?while in the prosses?and how long until you move to another gauge?

[MontanaPiercer]

The easiest and gentlest way to stretch, takes a bit of patience. Every couple of day you wrap a thicker layer of Teflon Tape (white waterproof plumber's tape) around the jewelry, very slowly increasing the size and stretching the tissue. The next best route would be an insertion taper, most any shop should have them. I carry ones up to 7/8". The taper is lubed and pushed through the hole, carrying out an immediate stretch. This sometimes causes small tears, so the jewelry must meet requirements for initial piercing. Weight stretching is difficult to control and many times causes thinning at the lower point of tissue, because only that small point us under the weight. Some people who like weight stretching will put the weight on through a flesh tunnel, which helps distribute the weight.
What ever way you choose, be careful and don't stretch more often than every 6 to 8 weeks. This gives the tissue time to strengthen and relax before the next stretch, reducing the possibility of a tear and scarring.

[thattt2guy]

When stretching with tapers, you can normally stretch every 2 weeks until you hit the 000 mark <not 6-8 weeks> after that go 3 weeks between stretches until you hit 3/4 inch, any other stretch should be 4 weeks between stretches...<this guide is valid as long as your not jumping sizes, and it does change with different peoples healing times, but ever so slightly in most cases>

[MontanaPiercer]

That is too frequent plain and simple. Your body can not physically heal that quickly from the previous stretching trauma, especially in the presence of micro tears. If you want to be reckless with your ears, feel free, but please don't recommend what the VAST majority of professionals would contend is a potentially problematic rate. Safe and easy is what you should be recommending as professional there is some responsibility to offer the advice that is the safest for the MAJORITY of the clients. Yes, some people can handle that rate....most can not without some issues....why risk it anyway...if you are that impatient, suck it up and cut the fuckers, as it would not only be less problematic, as healing once verses all the stretches, it would also be cheaper, as you purchase only one size jewelry, and no tapers.....
In the end, do what you want....it's your ears.
What is your personal stretching experience by the way?
Me? 000g tongue until I split it out, 1" lobes below 5/8" lobes, 2 gauge septum, 8 gauge nipples, 6 gauge ampallang, and 8 gauge reverse pa, pa was at 00g until I split it out...just curious if you are speaking from personal experience?

[thattt2guy]

Everything I recommend is from experience, whether it be from my personal views or my professional ones, i do specify the difference..
Oh yes, i am a professional piercist as well as being a tattoo artist, I began working professionally in both fields in 1997...
As far as my time lines are represented in stretching you should do some research in that field, what you call a "micro-tear" is in fact a tear of the outer tissue, during a normal small stretch <1g to 1g> that comes with a normal tear , the total tear should be no more than .14 of a mm through the entirety of the stretch, that is the farthest point with skin that has become adapted to the jewelry that is already set in place, the healing time for that is actually 11 days for a "normal" human being. So by stating 14 days it gives a few more days for those oddballs.
As for my personal piercings at this present time I have 1 inch lobes and a 1/2 tounge...
Due to a previous surgery most of my piercings have been taken out, i did however have 8g nipples, a 10g septum, both brows x 4, 10g "pixies" ,8g labre and a upper and lower frenum ladder that consisted of 6 on each side.
I personally don't disagree with anyone ELSE doing cuts rather than stretches, just like I dont disagree with someone ELSE dermal punching,but, doing both myself years ago I have seen to much risk of infection from people improperly taking care of such large abrasions of the skin and its less bullshit to take care of by just making my customers take the extra time to do actual stretches, and quite honestly my wallet is much happier with my decision also...To each their own...

[MontanaPiercer]

I almost used this reply to flood the topic with quotes from some of the country's and the worlds most prominent piercing artist, who guess what...also all disagree with your time estimates. Then I thought about it, and decided that it probably wouldn't change your mind anyway. If you would like, I will post their names (all recognizable....all professionals...all considered tops in their fields) along with quotes (because frankly man, I am the one in this conversation who has done their research)....but we really don't need to do that right? If you think you are the lone voice of reason dude...you have to admit that it is at least a possibility you are wrong, when faced with such an abundance of information from reputable sources, all contradicting your opinion. Besides, a conscientious professional would understand the need to be on the safe side of these matters, and understand that recommendations such as these should always allow for worst case scenario, as there is no reason to risk client health, especially for a stretching race.
You are most definitely entitled to your opinion, I just dont agree with you recommending such a potentially problematic pace to the general population, who are for the most part uneducated novices, and already too impatient with stretching to do it safely. What worked for you is absolutely no indication of what will work for the greater population....
just to re-iterate, not saying your pace isn't possible...just that it is not a safe recommendation for people as a whole, and as such, I personally wont risk it my clients.

[thattt2guy]

I don't knock what you do and how you do it, as you said, there are differences in opinion to everything in our field...How you handle your buisness is your buisness, I certainly do not chastise your methods, apparently they work for you, but in the same regards I've been doing this for 8 years and am yet to have a problem due to any personal negligence and am yet to have a report filed against me or my buisness, my customers seem very happy with what I do and how I do it, at the end of the day as long as everyones safe and happy...thats all that matters...

[MontanaPiercer]

Fair enough....

[in2ink]

guys today i went to my get my ears prepared for a 4mm flesh tunnel i would have liked a dermal punch but was advised that in his impression if im only going to 4mm then just stretch i have started at 1.6 then 2.6 up to 3.6 over a 10 12 week period depending on healing time
my quesion is everytime i clean them i piss with blood i would thought it was a straight forward peircing so why am i having problems is it because i have ben partying the night before and after i had the peircing any help or advice apreciated

[in2ink]

please dont flame me i realised i should have put this in the newb section sorry