springs....?

[stealthninjamark]

ive been thinking about my springs a lot lately. they seem to give me the most trouble on a daily basis.
the springs are the thing on the machine that i understand the least about.
sooo, i have 3 questions.

#1, how often should i be replacing my springs, or how can you tell when you need a new set?

#2, why do they make springs in 2 pieces? just wondering if the machine could benefit from a 1 piece spring.

#3, is an o ring neccisary? what are the pros and cons of it?

sorry for the list lol.

[stealthninjamark]

well the only question that answered was #2. i see now that that was a retarded question all together. :oops:
thanks tho, that site had some good advice, but most of it didnt make to much sense to me.
oh welllll
someone else step up to the plate! :D

[DRJAEDOG]

YO STEALTH, MAKE SURE YOU DONT HAVE A HOLE IN THE SPRING WHERE THE CONTACT SCREW HITS THE SPRING, THAT CAN CAUSE LOTS OF PROBLEMS,NO GOOD CONTACT MEANS NOT A GOOD STRONG NEEDLE STROKE. AND WHEN ITS TIME TO CHANGE THE FRONT SPRING I ALWAYS CHANGE THE REAR ALSO JUST SOMETHING I DO. HOPE THAT HELPS

[Capt. Calzone]

I use my springs until they start getting pitted.. I think having two springs will give you more tweak and set up options rather than just one single long spring. O-rings just cusion the spring and quiet the machine a bit.. I don't use em.. I like my machines loud and obnoxious :wink:

[stealthninjamark]

lol. my machines are already loud and obnoxious with the o ring.
i guess ill keep it so noone runs away when they hear the machine start buzzin.
today i broke my machine down and took everything apart that came apart. cleaned the frame and filed everything. my front spring had a pit in it, so i hammered it flat to take the bend out of it. then i used a vise grip to bend it back the opposite way and put everything back together. so now theres no pits int he spring, and the machin runs better than the day i got it.
as for my other needlejack machine.....i dont know if theres anything that will help that thing....

[framey]

:evil:

[Deakon]

Wouldn't using one spring change the back-force on the fulcrum? (not trying to start an argument... I honestly have no idea.)

[stealthninjamark]

im starting to understand the springs a little bit more now.
i have a machine that will get absolutely no stroke length no mater what i do unless i run it at 12 volts. and it sounds terrible too. im guessing its a spring problem.
any ideas?

[Capt. Calzone]

Hey Ninja, try bending your rear spring up a bit.. you can also bend your front spring down or a combination of the both. Just remember bend little by little. too much bending back and forth may kill the flex and integrity of the springs.

[stealthninjamark]

im starting to think that there might be a defect in the frame.
ive tried to do that bending of the springs.
maybe i can post a pic and someone can look at it.

[Capt. Calzone]

What style frame is it?

[Capt. Calzone]

oh... and is it a new machine or an older one that just took a crap on you?

[stealthninjamark]

its one of the brass needlejack machines. it might be the freedom or something else. its a liner machine, or is supposed to be. but the frame is made to look like a n and a j.
iv had it for like 6 months, but have used it once for like 5 minutes. it never worked right from day 1.

[Capt. Calzone]

Hmm.. it could be that maybe the frame needs a yoke.
see if a magnet sticks to the frame. if not then slap a yoke on.
(that is, if there isn't one already on there)

[stealthninjamark]

just tested that. magnet sticks to the frame nicely.
thanks for all your help captain c. i really apreciate it.
i dunno what i would do without this place and all of you guys awesome help.