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DANTHEMAN
09-23-2005, 04:59 PM
how do u go about covering up a huge iece of tribal at the top of the arm that was done years ago with a home made rotary machine so was therefore patchy and faded and done with bad quality ink of some kind? im aware of guy atchisons coverup work and the statement he writes on the website about pigment / skin sharing and laser treatment and black feilds being bad for coverup but does anyone have any ideas.

JosephBigBear
09-23-2005, 05:10 PM
I have covered up a couple of hand made tattoos First I went over them with white Ink I think I used Starbrite white then I let them heal the reg. amount of healing time this droped the black a couple of shades lighter so I could cover them up. I also did one that I went over 3 times it works but you realy gotta be careful not to over work the skin. Hope this helps.

Sarcastic_Bastar
09-23-2005, 05:45 PM
and thats what you do huh?

Sarcastic_Bastar
09-23-2005, 05:47 PM
whats wrong with just tatting over the original?

FORGIVEN
09-23-2005, 08:40 PM
TAKE IT EASY THERE , KILLER !!!! DIDNT YOUR MOM TEACH YOU , IF YOU DONT HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY DONT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL ??? YEAH , WE ALL SEE WHAT YOU'RE CALLING YOURSELF (NOW)...

Essex Boy
09-23-2005, 08:45 PM
sorta gets to ya dont it

DANTHEMAN
09-24-2005, 11:10 AM
IF YOUCANT PLAY NICE GO PLAY ELSEWHERE. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMDE OTHER SITES TO GO TO LIKE THAT, ILL MAIL YOU THEM.THEYRE STILL TATTOO FORUMS BUT R FULL OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

JosephBigBear
09-24-2005, 03:28 PM
whats wrong with just tatting over the original? You are my hero NOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigDaddyInks
09-24-2005, 04:35 PM
whats wrong with just tatting over the original?

Whats wrong with being a decent person and possibly understanding that this forum saves many from disease and unprofessional tattoos, because the people arent afraid to share knowledge with beginners so they do it right the first time. Its stuck up a**holes like yourself that make it impossible for those of us who are stuck in smalltown USA without the luxury of an apprenticeship to do tattoos safe and professionally without feeling like your signature!!! which fits you VERY VERY well!!! :twisted: :twisted:

Pigment Pen
09-24-2005, 05:55 PM
You can't let idiots like that bother you. They can't stand the fact that they had to go through an apprenticeship for the info we give and get here. We just have to remember that it doesn't really matter what these people say, we're still gonna have this community. Just ignore the stupidity and keep posting. This is the greatest tattoo forum and will always be.

BigDaddyInks
09-24-2005, 06:15 PM
well said Pigment Pen!!! :twisted:

DANTHEMAN
09-24-2005, 08:50 PM
wats peoples views on the using white or pink first i heard of an old tattooist who covered his arms with skin colour ink , you know, over the old stuff then re-tattooing it, but before id heard of this or you, id thuoght of maybe doin a small bit of white on it and seeing how it came out but whats your views on it,and does anyone know of a uk supplier of guy atchisons book? or does anyone facey sharing theyre id codes for his site lol but yeah whats your opinions?

FORGIVEN
09-24-2005, 09:11 PM
this can be done , in James Kern's book ...Advanced Cover - ups , he talks about doing a few sessions in white to dull the existing tattoo enough to cover it !!!

STARMedic
09-24-2005, 09:57 PM
Whats wrong with being a decent person and possibly understanding that this forum saves many from disease and unprofessional tattoos, because the people arent afraid to share knowledge with beginners so they do it right the first time. Its stuck up a**holes like yourself that make it impossible for those of us who are stuck in smalltown USA without the luxury of an apprenticeship to do tattoos safe and professionally without feeling like your signature!!! which fits you VERY VERY well!!!

Amen, and thanks for putting it much more eloquently than I could have.

You can't let idiots like that bother you. They can't stand the fact that they had to go through an apprenticeship for the info we give and get here. We just have to remember that it doesn't really matter what these people say, we're still gonna have this community. Just ignore the stupidity and keep posting. This is the greatest tattoo forum and will always be.

+1 on that one as well....well put.

Not to hijack this thread or anything I really wonder just how many out there have done formal apprenticeships and are still truly no load shit suckin ass clowns?

Bruce

FORGIVEN
09-25-2005, 02:12 AM
I put my time in ...mopping floors , making needles , cutting stencils , answering the phone , cleaning the FU#@*%G bathroom , and to be honest with you guys I wouldnt change a thing !!!!!

XHAZE
09-25-2005, 03:46 AM
Late'92 til '94. My mentor told me that the first tattoo on human skin would be on him. I learn't, practiced, and waited for 18 months then one night I lost the plot with him. Went berserk. He looked at me and laughed and said "I think your ready." That was one of the most important lessons he taught me.

14 years later I have ribbons,medallions, trophies and have had photos in national magazines. I constantly learn, even here on this forum. I have a licensed premises and am currently attaining Cert 2 in maintaining infectious disease. Some that weren't around in '92.

For all that Blah Blah above, what still gets to me is I still don't have a formal "you know everything about tattooing" certificate.

I'm going to get me one though.......before I die......

FORGIVEN
09-25-2005, 08:52 AM
Thats funny, X-haze ...I did almost the exact same thing , I went fu#*ing banannas one day , he looked at me and told me to pick a piece of flash off the wall , one with alot of black shading and color changes , (i picked a metallic gold star w/ a skull in it !!) , and i was to get it exactly like the pic. .....went well (other than the shaking and massive endorphin rush :twisted: ) , then he let me start taking on some of the clients (smaller pieces) ......good stuff !!!!!!!! :lol:

STARMedic
09-25-2005, 10:42 AM
Dont get me wrong I have no doubt that there are tons of great guys out there, case in point being the folks that post and help here. For what its worth I consider everyone here a mentor in some way or form, as I try and learn something from everything I read here. Sometimes its great technical advice relating to the craft and sometimes as of late its been that there is a ton of ignorance in the world.

Bruce

JosephBigBear
09-26-2005, 04:04 PM
Still there is new shit to learn all the time new tools new supplies hell even probs withe new tools or supplies so everybody in here helps each other out I dont care if your are a apprentice or just learning on your own long as you go the right way things will work out.