Question on Tattooing...

[Tatsmarkthespot]

I have a question. How far do you tattoo on someone? I mean I did a tattoo on my wife and it looks like it is like a fade almost.. Am I not pushing the needle in far enough or? Can someone give me some tips on a first time tattooer?

[gooey.uk1]

it could be a number of things we could do with some more info on what you did
ie what type if needle /ink were you riding off the tip or the needle etc
also are you uaing disposable tips/needles

[Tatsmarkthespot]

I am using disposable tubes i am using M.O.M ink from needle jacks site. I need to know how to fix this

[JosephBigBear]

1. what are you using for liner ink ?
2. did you just grab a machine and go town or did you do your home work first?
if you did not do your homework first then shame on you lol

realy you should read all of the posts in this forum befor you even pick up the machine and ask alot of questions the people in this forum are good people.
Good Luck

[BigDaddyInks]

not flaming you dude but.. when asking questions lke how deep and stuff its obvious that no homework was done you shouldnt need to push gravity should be enough weight to get a solid piece...... just take some time read the posts .....a couple of times and then start on grapefruits....everyone here is here to help take advantage and gain some knowledge first then experiment....ok bro? :twisted:

[urmindsi]

If u have overworked it, because u thought the ink was not going in the way u pictured it in your minds eye, .....if it scabbed up pretty bad,(skin color scab bout 3/64ths thick)........ thats why your tat is fading.It may have been done wrong. You need to do your homework and read every post on this forum before u touch her or anyone again. Its not just about drawing and being an artist, its a creative trade u must try and master! Always remember you can scar someone for life, its permanant, laser surgery cost $$$$$$... OR... you can do it smart and leave a great impression that will last a lifetime! good luck fellow artist.

[BattleRoyal]

OK,
this leads to an interesting issue I see approaching -

First, some tattoo artists recommend practicing on yourself before ever touching a client - which I can understand. Wouldn't it be wiser to commence tattooing on grapefruit or one of the new practice skin mediums BEFORE ever thinking of touching ANYONE - including YOURSELF?

Hey - tattoos ARE for life - and I can't see a guy putting a crappy tat on even themselves unless they have practiced at least first on another medium. Yes - the realize that nothing is quite like real human skin - but still - as nurses - we don't start injecting patients until we have PRACTICED these skills on fake mediums FIRST!

Also - I just set up my first liner machine with the needles 1/16" deep. I have not tried it yet but it would seem that 1/16" really isn't ALL that deep. I would think a tattoo needle would have to penetrate deeper than 1/16" to get down deep enough into the skin to leave anything permanent.

???

[FORGIVEN]

I'm with Big Daddy on this one !!!!

[Tatsmarkthespot]

I have done some ink on fruit. I have read the posts. I mean I am using these plastic tubes and it just doesnt seem to be doing much at all. I mean I can tattoo a straight line on a fruit but on skin. Forget about it, it looks like crap. My wife wanted me to try it on her. Please help

[framey]

:evil:

[Psyclone]

Yea you dont wanna start doing crappy tattoos till you learn the basics. I did some "homie"
tattoos 10 years ago & I still get flamed about them. Thats why when I do a tattoo on someone again its going to be the right way. No reason not to practice on grapefruit or other things, those wont laugh at you in ten years :lol:

[Essex Boy]

im not having a go but bigdaddys gots some points here.
just because you can put straigt lines on fruit dont mean youve hit the top of the tree,listen to what the guys are saying to you.read the posts here and i dont mean just the ones about puttin ink in skin,theres a lot more to it READ IT ALL then when youve done that go over each one again and inwardly digeste.
everybody wants to put some ink down but it seems that your trying to run before you can walk. this is all about learning to start with but it seems by your posts youve already started.
advice my man. stop playing with skin until at least youve got the basics down to an understanding,bacause the more you get frustrated at not getting it right the more skin your gonna f**k up.
like i say im not havin a go but you do need to listen to these guys

[JosephBigBear]

You should also go beyond this post to find more information. All I can say is read read read read practice practice........................................

:twisted:

[Essex Boy]

i with ya there JJB

[gremlin]

Dude, Im not going to give you grief,....in fact im going to help you with a little homework.... here is the link to an online bloodbourne pathogens course. http://www.tatsmart.com

It contains a huge amount of information about the skin, bloodbourne deseases, cross contamination, and a lot more. it is geared to the tattoo/piercing industry and includes the OSHA regs so it goes a lot furter in depth than the red cross. and the beauty is you dont have to pay for anything unless you take the test, all the study guides are free and printable for future refrence. I printed all the study materials out, along with the Osha regulations and put in a notebook. In my opinion this is the most important "book" pertaining to tattooing on my shelf.

How is this going to help you? If you read it and understand what they are saying. You will learn :
Code Of Ethics - Body Art Specialist's Code of Ethics
Chapter 1 - Skin Anatomy and Physiology
Chapter 2 - Procedures for Studios and Artists
Chapter 3 - Bloodborne Pathogens - OSHA Summary
Chapter 4 - OSHA Standards 29 CFR - 1910.1030
Chapter 5 - Food and Drug Administration Fact Sheet 58
Chapter 6 - State and Local Regulatory Offices

I hope you really look at this information and take it to heart, There is a lot of good info around, it would be a shame not to use it.

[urmindsi]

this is why this forum kicks ass!! people who care

[Essex Boy]

nice one gremlin
not only will this help tatsmarkthespot i hope all the newbies have a look and come to understand what they are getting into like i said its not just a matter of puttin ink in skin therse so much more that they have got to know and LEARN

[JosephBigBear]

What Gremlin said is the a good and safe way to take I think it cost $69.00 and u get a certificate.

[Grafx]

I agree whole heartedly with Big Daddy, Forgiven. Gremlin, Essex, etc... Let me as you this and then ponder a point. (Sorry guys this is gonna be a little long winded)
How much ink do you have on your skin?
One of the best ways to get a good feel for whats going on is to find a reputable artist and go and get some ink. You will get outta this business what you put into it. Go and spend a couple, or a few hundred bucks and really pay attnention!(Don't ask the artist tons of questions as it may annoy him if he's an old head) Just" pay close attention" to the way he's setting up. Look at the needle depth as he's laying it to your skin. Look at the angle he holds the machine while he's lining the piece. Watch how he stretches the skin. Is he using a 3 point stretch? Does he push or pull lines? Does he ride the tube or the needle? Look closely at the point of contact where the needle meets the skin. How often does he spray and wipe? There are at any one time many factors to take into consideration while we lay ink man. you must be aware at all times and be a part of what you are doing. I mean pay attention like your life depends on it. I do, and my life does depend on it. This is my calling and I do it because it makes me happy, not because I'm going to get rich, but because I love the feeling of setting the needle to skin and turning out a nice artistic piece that the client will hopefully love forever.
I know I'm putting a little too much zen into this but man! what a feeling to be somewhere and someone walkes up and says"Your Grafx? dude you did an awsome job on my buddy and I want a tattoo"

[JosephBigBear]

Right on I feel it is time that some of these people in here hear the cold hard facts you just dont buy a kit and step right on in to the world of tattooing. I and others have said this a million times study study study practice practice practice and ask a Shit load of questions befor you even think of touching a person with a machine and needle.
Not only you can hurt that person but you can also hurt yourself with BBP.
SO not only do you need to read and study the art you also Need to study BBP,CC ................
My recomendation is DO NOT buy anything untill you find out what you are getting into. :twisted: :twisted:

[voodoo]

i read every thing i could find on the net...more than 1 time,i still go back and re read it. i also spent $40 to get all 5 copys of machinegun magizine.
plus i found this site(dddaaaa!)as well.
plus lets not forget the cd-r from ebay..
plus i,ve seen first hand how not to tattoo-a 'bud' of mine does it in the musky basement,drunk,high and with old reused needles that he 'soaks in alcohol with the persons name he used it on! bad,bad.bad!this is not the way to treat this artform! :wink:
thats my story and i,m sticking to it! :D