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stealthninjamark
10-01-2005, 06:12 PM
does anyone know where i can find out the the characters for "no love"?
some guy wants to have the symbols on his arm somewhere.
if only i knew what thos symbols were...... :cry:
FORGIVEN
10-01-2005, 07:33 PM
personally , I dont trust alot of the kanji thats out there , my suggestion is to find a decent chinese restaurant , ask the hostess to hook you up with someone that can help you and make sure you tip well !!! I send clients to a joint down the street and it works out great !!!
JosephBigBear
10-02-2005, 06:15 AM
I saw have a picture in my shop it looks like kanji but turn it sideways it says go f%&k your self and i show it to everyone that wants kanji and I tell them to get there own because what Forgiven said. :twisted:
BattleRoyal
10-02-2005, 06:29 AM
Too funny?
JBB - can you start a thread on the TATTOO CONVENTION and share some of your observations, etc?
JosephBigBear
10-02-2005, 05:53 PM
will do :twisted:
voodoo
10-03-2005, 06:57 PM
i have heard of some g.i.'s getting kanji that says stuff like fried rice and crap like dumb american! :shock:
tatt2u
10-03-2005, 11:47 PM
Give this site a try:http://tattoosinsilver.com/site/560079/page/251254
stealthninjamark
10-05-2005, 09:55 AM
wow. i officially hate kanji.
theres so many variations on freakin everything. i might as well make up my own symbol and make it mean whatever the hell i want.
anyway i found the symbol for love....
but cant find anything for "no"
thanks for the help tho guys.
Ladedeth
10-09-2005, 04:13 PM
I use 2 sites (whether they are correct or not..who knows unless you know chinese)
http://www.chinese-symbols.com/l-chinese-symbol-for-love
http://japanese.about.com/bl50kanji.htm
The first one has a symbol for "no" and "love".
voodoo
10-09-2005, 05:27 PM
on the japanese site u can even hear how to pronounce it!
karvin
12-07-2005, 08:54 PM
well im a chinese ,from malaysia aka broneo
so if any guys of u might 1 help in trasalation on kanji
so let me knows okay..
ciaoz.
just wanna make myself usefull
Enlighten
06-28-2006, 11:18 PM
I'm Chinese and I also speak and write Japanese so I'll try to answer your question. If you would like to see the characters, please click on "View" on your Internet browser and select "Japanese" for the "Encoding". (If you cannot find "Japanese" in the encoding tab, download it in the microsoft offical webpage. The Chinese symbols for "No Love" is:
無愛
In Japanese, it is:
愛なし or 愛がない
But if he wants both characters to be in kanji, I would suggest using the Chinese version I provided above. Send me a pm if you can't see the symbols or if you have more questions.
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FatFreddyFreekowtski
07-17-2006, 12:13 PM
I would VERY VERY strongly advise ANYONE considering getting anything in a foreign language marked on his or her person to do some SERIOUS research first.
Find a native speaker of that language who also speaks yours well, explain the concept you want, and go from there.
Languages do not have a 1:1 mapping of words, and trying to do so is disastrous.
Here's an example: "No Fear" in French - that, literally, is "non peur" which doesn't make sense. What you're trying to get across is "without fear" which is "sans peur".
The absolute worst case was someone who showed me his "initials" in Kanji - "yeah, that's the letter C in Chinese, and that's the letter J." Say WHAT NOW? Turns out that one was the symbol for an elemental metal and another was something equally weird. I knew for a fact Chinese doesn't have "letters", this was a particularly bad case.
The second worst case was me seeing the symbol for "Electricity" put up on a wall, as flash, labelled as the word for "Dragon".
It's not enough to have a passing familiarity with words in another language - what you really need is someone who understands the language and culture fluently, and yours. That way you can find something that expresses what you wish that will also make sense in the language which you wish to use. Nothing worse than walking around with "Beef, broccoli and Almond Guy Ding" on your arm thinking it means "I'm a badass".
I'm not saying anyone here is that stupid, but that's the level of research I personally would do before inking anything on anyone. Who knows? Maybe what you intend on putting on your body in your mode of thinking is deeply offensive in the language you intend. You might think putting that snippet from the Koran on your arm is kinda cool looking, but someone else might physically assault you for "desecrating" the work. Likewise, choice of colors and expressions - black is a funeral color here, but in Asia, it's white.
You or your customer might not particularly CARE about who might be offended, so your mileage may vary - but it's something to consider, mention in passing "just take a second, make sure you won't get into fights over this".
If you did want to offer something interesting in Chinese, there's books you can get with four character sayings, idiomatic expressions called chengyu.
There's a good writeup on it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_idiom
hydrophidian
07-17-2006, 05:07 PM
being a juggler I found this amusing.
There isn't a direct translation in any chinese dialect, japanese or any other oriental language that uses the kanji styled symbols for juggler. I went to a japanese steakhouse and hibachi and asked my cook what the word for juggler was. First he didn't know what the english word juggle meant, so I juggled a bit for him and he drew them for me.(two symbols) I didn't notice anything until I was trying to design a logo for my former juggling club in Dallas and instead of having them side by side I put one of them above the other and it looked like a clown face sticking it's tongue out!! I looked it up in a japanese learning book of mine(that I keep around for tattoo purposes)and it was correct.
But yeah, I agree. You never know what you're getting. I've got a buddy who went to a shop to get three symbols and ended up getting "half price rice".
Rico
hydrophidian
07-17-2006, 05:16 PM
I have got a tattoo artist friend in Dallas that had his brother do the kanji symbol for cancer(the astrological sign) in kanji and ended up getting the kanji for breast cancer!!! Freakin hilarious!! I also have a sheet of flash that says it's the japanese/english kanji translation of our alphabet. I was learning japanese for a short time and can say that there isn't a direct translation.
I tell people who want kanji this all of the time. I could (being an artist) draw up some stuff that will look just like kanji and be nothing but random scratches and lines. Some of it might mean something but, it would be purely unintentional.
Bottom line, if some word means that much to you, why not get it in a language you at least understand, and can read?
Rico
xxxMDKxxx@Gmail.com
07-20-2006, 09:21 PM
Man Guys, Well said. Ive read soem crazy shit about this kinda stuff. I always advise Against Japanese and Chinese characters.
voodoo
07-20-2006, 09:36 PM
http://www.hanzismatter.com/ dont know if i posted this allready ....
confused tattooed
07-20-2006, 09:39 PM
I know i was reading somewhere yesterday, someone got a kanji symbol that they wanted to mean one thing and it ended up meaning something like fraud. Luckily i have a friend that has study Janpanese and Kanji in school for about 6+years. So I always check with her before i even attemp drawing kanji.
FatFreddyFreekowtski
07-28-2006, 12:43 PM
Do keep in mind that some characters mean different things in different langauges - Japanese borrowed Kanji from the Chinese, but "me" in Chinese is different from Japanese. If I remember correctly "watashi" in Japanese is the character for "selfish" in Chinese.
ink_freak
07-28-2006, 08:13 PM
about 6 yrs ago i got a tattoo of a kanji that meant "cannibus/hemp" from a high times mag for many years i was not possitive that thats what it meant then one day i was watching a documentry done by woody harrelson called "grass" and in the intro it showed my tattoo so maybe im lucky and its right or at least i know that it has something to do with it
Pranx
07-30-2006, 03:25 AM
I been living in Japan now for about year, and have had the priveledge of seeing actual Japanese artists do Kanji. I have 3 Konji tatts on my arm that I wish I didn't now that I see what it actually supposed to look like. To write konji you have to use strokes ( very precise) in order for them to mean anything. Unfortunately in the states we get flash sheets with very sloppy strokes. I showed a couple of my konji tatts to my Japanese friends and they could barely read them, not that the artist did a bad job, they just aren't good flash sheets. Personally I won't do kanji tatts cause I can't read or write the strokes. I don't think you should do konji unless you explain to your client the inconsistencies in American style and Authentic Japanese/ Chinese konji. Just my opinion though
xxxMDKxxx@Gmail.com
07-30-2006, 09:13 AM
I agree with you pranx.
I took Japanese in Highschool and In college. Its all about strokes and placement. Kanji and Katakana are very precise.
Klimskady
08-30-2006, 07:50 AM
A friend of mine wants Nicole in Kanji, I have warned him against it but he is determined.
Rather than having him go it alone I was wondering if anyone knew this so I could give it to him?
Cheers in advance.
johnnynotoes
08-30-2006, 10:15 AM
i knew a guy who had some kanji tattooed years go, turned out it was the spice girls tattoo, the girl power thing...
kwiggins29059
08-30-2006, 11:26 AM
I been living in Japan now for about year, and have had the priveledge of seeing actual Japanese artists do Kanji. I have 3 Konji tatts on my arm that I wish I didn't now that I see what it actually supposed to look like. To write konji you have to use strokes ( very precise) in order for them to mean anything. Unfortunately in the states we get flash sheets with very sloppy strokes. I showed a couple of my konji tatts to my Japanese friends and they could barely read them, not that the artist did a bad job, they just aren't good flash sheets. Personally I won't do kanji tatts cause I can't read or write the strokes. I don't think you should do konji unless you explain to your client the inconsistencies in American style and Authentic Japanese/ Chinese konji. Just my opinion though
I couldnt agree with you more i feel the Kanji craze here kind of bastardizes the japanese culture, Hopefully itll be a passing fad here like the tribal tramp stamp.
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