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chibones69
10-07-2005, 10:03 PM
Im still learning here, and the question I have is it better to push the machine into the line or pull the machine back to line ? :roll:

tadt
10-07-2005, 10:16 PM
i line at a 90 degree and move the machine nice and slow so doesnt matter if your pushing or pulling at a 90, but i shade and fill at a 45 and it works to push for me when filling small areas but when you fill with small circles your doing both when you have the machine at a 45. hope that helps.

chibones69
10-07-2005, 10:23 PM
I appreciate your input. Im lining at about 75 degrees and ive been pulling and doing good lines but I was not sure if that was right or not.

jadefoodog
10-07-2005, 10:53 PM
in my exsperince and this even crosses over into several mediums its best to pull

pushing gives bad lines for most people , unless youve forced yourself to get good at it.

pulling helps keep lines smooth and crisp true for painting drawing with pencil , chalk, charcoal and most hard mediums. pastels dont matter cause they smug everywhere anyway.


im sure pushing has advantages for certain situations and i think with practice you will know them when they appear

theprofessor
10-08-2005, 11:42 AM
I was taught in the beginning that it was better to push wish messed me up a lot being a artist and always sweeping my lines toward myself. So after being told different my lines are so much better and I believe it helped me with stretching the skin and not getting hangups.

chibones69
10-08-2005, 11:46 PM
Thanks alot, Ive seen guys push there lines but I have been more comfortable pulling them so I think ill stick with that 8)

timmy
12-20-2005, 06:40 PM
just be carefull when you experiment with different tubes such as v-tip,diamond,square,and so on.To each thier own,but when im using diamond or v-tip you have to push in order for ink to feed properly.Unless im missunderstanding the question.

Grafx
12-20-2005, 08:53 PM
Hello again folks!
(IMHO) The stability of the needle in the tube and the machines tuning definately plays a major part in even the ability to push, or pull a line for that matter. I do both depending on the situation. Since I'm right handed the sometimes the situation warrants me to push a small line (Re: a little roll to the left or the right, or to either side, sideways. ) But when pulling looong lines definately watch the depth, and if ya "float the needle" make sure to keep the depth consistant as you pull.
You may have the tendency to lift out as you reach the end of the line. If I am ever feeling "in the least bit" unsteady, I will automatically go back to riding the tube and re-set the needle depth and ride the tube as to pull the best single pass line possible. then switch it back for the other shorter lines.
As you get more used to all the angels involved in tattooing you will see when and where you need to push, and or pull as the individual case might be.

carl
12-21-2005, 05:51 AM
rite on grafx,
couldnt of explained that better myself.
:D
i feel alot safer pulling my long lines,i just get mad visions of pushing a realy long line and it blowing out rite the way throu on long 1's,
but shorter more wavey sort of stuff ill push,

its like grafx said you get used too it after a while and do it automaticly accordinly,
carl

Tribal_dog
04-01-2006, 01:01 PM
I'm not sure why but I finished my first tat and was using a diamond 5-8rd tube with a 5rd needle and when I pulled it seen to catch (snag) a bit but not when I pushed? I had good stretch bothways and was wondering if it was possibly because I may have a tendency to pull faster and push slower? Either way this was a high point in my life and it was the next best thing to sex! :D
BTW I got my diamond tubes from Superior Tattoo Equipment

stealthninjamark
04-05-2006, 08:47 AM
i have seen my artist turn the machine around so its backwards in his hand if he needs to pull a line.
wouldnt that technically make a push a pull?