cut back liners

[evil-tattoo]

whats the advantage of cut back liners , just wanted to know other peoples views on this topic..

[JOCK]

Hi cut back liners work faster , read back posts, that will help you, ( search ) (cut back liners) all the best Jock.

[DANTHEMAN]

cos they have a shorter front spring,they go faster. leans toward the fsst &wizzy type liners

[carl]

they sure are fast,great for portraits by all accounts...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/bourneoz_ink/mytatmachine.jpg
but my frames chromed

[DANTHEMAN]

thats not a cutback. im from south wales, where r u from, r u in a shop?

[carl]

it is a cutback liner mate,i do know what i bought,take a look for your self.
http://www.tattoo-supplies.co.uk/productdetails.aspx?CategoryID=MACH&SubCategoryID=0080&productid=53D0175A

near cardiff,what part of south wales are you?

[Inkster]

There are 3 Kev Shercliff machines with near identical frames, but look closer at the frames each one is different, the liner and cut back are again slightly different.

[DANTHEMAN]

thats the point the frame shape looksa bit more squashed thats all. its not really cut back though, the front spring is still the same length isnt it? but yeah, im from SWANSEA, and you?

[Essex Boy]

well from the picture im looking at the spring is shorter compared to the other kev shercliff liner which if you look closly you will see
so yes carl it a cutback as you have said

[Papa Gee]

you can make any liner machine a "cutback" style machine. It's not the front spring that determines whether a machine is a "cutback" or not.

A cutback liner uses a shorter armature bar. The shorter bar carries less weight causing the machine to run at a faster speed.

[DANTHEMAN]

i guess it is a little shorter but not by much though, seems silly to maketwo liners nearly the same ,have you seen the sobarusto liners , theyre cutback.

[carl]

carl: it is a cutback liner mate,i do know what i bought,take a look for your self.

sorry about that lil shi**y coment,i just knew i bought it as a cutback liner i also knew i was rite,it says in black and white on the site from which i bought it. :)

[DANTHEMAN]

that was my point, i do also buy alot from dts but yeah, i just wouldnt trust what the site calls . theyre not tattooists and olny know what they have learned from sellin stuff.hey does anyone know how to get a thermofax to work better.the one i just got makes the stencil lines a bit to thick, thicker that hte originaland its on its lowest(lightest) setting pretty much.

[carl]

hey dan,
i think you'll find that the maker of this machine in Q is a tattooist and has been for many years,
also the man who started DTS has tattooing backround too,
as for the thermofax i havent got a clue as all my stencils are hand drawn.
carl

[MontanaPiercer]

Dan, turn it down more.....and make sure you are feeding your machine correctly, and using a cover sleeve if the machine requires one.....
and make sure you removed the wax sheet from the spirit sheet set before running into the machine.... if it is still dark, it might need servicing....

[Inkster]

Kev Shercliff of the Kev Shercliff tattoo machines in question has a shop I belive in the Walsall area, the last time I looked at his work it literally blew me away, some very good stuff.

Regarding the DTS history, it was started off by Charles Burchett-Davies who was the younger brother of George Burchett-Davies who I am sure needs no introduction to people in the UK, Charles eventually passed on the company to his son Eric Davies in 1983 who owned it up until 2003 when it was sold to PMW Enterprises Ltd t/a DTS, the managing director is now a lady called Josie Gibson.

[DANTHEMAN]

whos george.....davies???

[carl]

George Burchett-Davis, the better-known, was a rebel, a legend and the most famous tattooist of his time.

after leaving the navy He returned to London and became the country’s leading tattooist. In the course of a long and full life he assembled an extensive collection of documents, pictures, and books on the history of tattooing. Among his clients were actresses, doctors, judges, a bishop, and assorted royalty, including Britain’s King George V and the late King Frederick of Denmark. Burchett’s wife, Edith. was tattooed all over.

When George opened his first shop in east London in 1900 he was joined by his younger brother Charles Burchett-Davis.

He then passed his skills onto his son Charles Davis who established a Tattoo Supplies Company (DTS)on a very small scale. Charles retired in 1983 and passed the business on to his son Eric Davis who expanded the business which he ran for 20 years.

[DANTHEMAN]

on the subject of cutbacks, a cut back has a short front spring, the short abar isnt necceccary in making a cutback, im sure that papa gee keepssaying this but im sure it aint true. pulse do a cutback , the specialist which uses the same abar as the other machines but has a shorter front springwhich makes it run faster and is therefore cutback.