Ammonia Inhalents

[Resurrected]

Just curious if anyone has ever had to use Ammonia Inhalents for someone who has passed out? I have some in case but have never needed them...though I have seen some shops that have had to use them...

[undercover art]

I'd like to know this as well...Also, were can I get some amonia inhalants? We used to have them in our first aid kit in football, but that's the last time I've seen em...

[pb359]

Use them sparingly...Here are a few links:

http://www.bryanbledsoe.com/pdf/mags/Ammonia.pdf

If you still want them:

http://www.first-aid-product.com/industrial/ammonia-inhalants.htm

http://www.medplususa.com/list-product_info-p-Ammonia_Inhalants_0_33cc-pid-722.html

[liarsenic]

if they pass out, take a pencil, force it like you would want to break it on their big toe's nail. NO ONE stays out when that happens, hurts so fuckin bad, some docs do it as a last resort if inhalants dont work.

[STARMedic]

I have trained and learned under Dr. Bledsoe for quite a few years now. I would advise not using them under most any circumstances. If your wanting to bring someone back around, pinch their trapezius, forcefully rub their sternum, do a trauma jaw thrust to open their airway, grab and twist their nipple as if to tear it off, or do the big toe thing as mentioned above....

For us in the medical profession here in Texas the ammonia inhalant thing is a big NO NO......

Bruce

[undercover art]

yeah...I think I'll just poke and slap em to get em back..........Thanks

[FORGIVEN]

Heheheh ..i like the nipple idea .......

[liarsenic]

it would just pleasure me to get my nipple rings twisted.

[NHBB1]

thanks for the heads up star.... I almost ordered a pack the other day, I cant imagine passing out from getting inked but it would scare the shit out of me if someone went lights out... now I got a few other alternatives :)

[Obsessed]

Hate to bring up the dead here, but I was trying to find out a little more info on why not to use the inhalents...the link earlier in the thread is dead. Any opinoins?

[voodoo]

Dont tell me star is gone???????????????

[undercover art]

Dont tell me star is gone???????????????

he does seem to be MIA

[L_Pease]

I've used them. personally and on customers. When I was still playing hockey, we'd pop them on the bench in between shifts of after a hard hit. Clears your head ASAP. If you're going to use them you need to read the instructions carefully. You don't need to put it directly under the nose, just wave it in front of the persons face a couple of feet away and that should do it. If you're not sure why, pop one and put it up to your nose and take a big whiff. A little bit goes a long way. I keep one on my counter in reach just in case. I too would like to hear the argument against them.

[undercover art]

I had one taped to the side of my work station, for easy acess....well, one day I wasn't careful and I bumped it and broke it....whew...everyone in the shop woke up...a lil does indeed go a long way....

[Jonesey]

One of the largest medical arguments against them is that ammonia inhalants have triggered some fairly serious asthmatic reactions, Ammonia interacts immediately upon contact with available moisture in the skin, eyes, oral cavity, respiratory tract, and particularly mucous surfaces to form the very caustic ammonium hydroxide. Ammonium hydroxide causes the necrosis of tissues through disruption of cell membrane lipids (saponification) leading to cellular destruction. As cell proteins break down, water is extracted, resulting in an inflammatory response that causes further damage.Ammonia is irritating and corrosive. Exposure to high concentrations of ammonia in air causes immediate burning of the nose, throat and respiratory tract. This can cause bronchiolar and alveolar edema, and airway destruction resulting in respiratory distress or failure. Inhalation of lower concentrations can cause coughing, and nose and throat irritation. Ammonia's odor provides adequate early warning of its presence, but ammonia also causes olfactory fatigue or adaptation, reducing awareness of one's prolonged exposure at low concentrations.

The bottom line is that despite how small the inhalant is, it is still capable of doing harm...And for every kitchen magician out there there are ten more who are too fukin stupid to understand how to properly use an inhalant.....

Id much rather take my chances using tactile stimulation and leave a bruise than run the risk of throwin someone into status asthmaticus, or complete respiratory failure from puttin a toxic chemical into their system....

Jones

[CropCircle]

Word!!!!!!

[L_Pease]

Thanks Jonesey. I see your point about improper use. Do you have any links or can you point me to some info on them?

[Jonesey]

Dr. Bledsoe's paper seems to have gone by the wayside. But here are some general links concerning the ingestion or inhalation of ammonia.

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/TOPIC846.HTM

http://www.health.state.ny.us/environmental/emergency/chemical_terrorism/ammonia_tech.htm

Ammonia Inhalants are also listed in the ERG as flammable and corrosive.

Jones

[Jonesey]

Please also bear in mind Im not tellin anyone what they can or cant do. Im merely stating the basic reasonings behind why some areas of the Clinical and Emergency Medical fields have gone away from the use of ammonia inhalants. Some may say that the chances of hurting someone with an inhalant is 1 in a million, but there is always a chance.

If anyone is ever dragged into court to explain why an ammonia inhalant was used, the attorney isnt gonna ask why the inhalant was used, but why you chose to put a toxic flammable corrosive chemical into his clients face.....

Jones

[poconosrob]

Or just a good slap across the cheek!..hehe..jk

[DmS4WAS]

Now that the serious medical and legal issues have been addressed I propose it necessary that it not be overlooked as to how easy it is to pick the pocket of someone whose temporarily void of cognition. I'm just sayin'...you know, it could be easy....

[poconosrob]

hah...Didnt they have a rash of dentists knocking out female patients then fondling them?.....careful.....dont want to be the next front page of the newspaper!....:D