stovetop sterilizer

[tadt]

Well i might have enough $$$ to get one, and im tired of using disposable tubes anyone have the stovetop sterilizer they sell here? I know its been talking about before but i dont remember were.

[lowshovel1]

I have the same one and it does the job.

[tadt]

Does it come with instructions so i know im using it correctly?

[lowshovel1]

yes it does

[5Liner]

The stovetop sterilizers aren't very safe. If your not careful; they have been known to explode during usage. I'm not trying to push you away from purchasing one, all i'm saying is be careful.

[lowshovel1]

That information is very specific in the included instructions, NEVER LEAVE UNATtENDED WHILE IN USE, I've been useing mine for 2 years (carefully) with know problem.

[the colorist]

and according to medical reports they do indeed sterilize just like the autoclave

[xxxMDKxxx@Gmail.com]

I've thought about the stove top thing, but the whole EXPLODING part scares the fuck outta me.
How do these things explode. I'm thinking people forget about them for a few hours and then BLAMO!

[STARMedic]

Most of them will have multiple safeties in place such as kunkel and pop off valves.....It would take a real brain surgeon to blow one up...

Bruce

[voodoo]

Just make sure the relieve valve is on it and is working!

[tadt]

i love you guys, im just worried about making sure it sterilizes my tubes and your worried about me blowing it up, i love this place!!!!

[lotsix]

i've got a stove top, and i dig it...i've been running it pretty regularly. My wife has worked as a vet tech, and now in the medical field...she bought it for me because they use something very similar where she works.

one question, i've ran it a couple of times without distilled water, got that film thing going on...what's the best way to clean it? Lime-away, vinigar?

[witchqueen]

i've never used one of these, do they work like a pressure cooker would. we have to use electric ones in the uk. they do sell them in the uk but they're not sanctioned for use in a studio. just nosey, might be useful as a back up tho. cos u can never be too sure, what works one day might not the next if u know wot i mean. (sorry, waffling on a bit now, i'll shut up!!!!!):???:

[okra's ink]

i've got a stove top, and i dig it...i've been running it pretty regularly. My wife has worked as a vet tech, and now in the medical field...she bought it for me because they use something very similar where she works.

one question, i've ran it a couple of times without distilled water, got that film thing going on...what's the best way to clean it? Lime-away, vinigar?
vinegar works...CLR works too, and it's safe enough to use on your coffee maker ...lime away has an abrasive in it doesn't it? i don't know if that would matter since they are made of cast aluminum but thought it might so i use distilled to avoid the build-up...we have crappy water around here too..

[sac4life]

what kind of grease do you use an your all american sterilizer???

[Ripshado]

I have an autoclave and use that... but... pray tell... how do YOU...clean your tubes before you package them and autoclave them? .. I've only had to autoclave my grips because i use disposable tubes....

[lowshovel1]

set of tube brushs and ultrasonic bath works fine.

[Ripshado]

set of tube brushs and ultrasonic bath works fine.

what do you actually put inthe ultrasonic ? solution wise...

[okra's ink]

what kind of grease do you use an your all american sterilizer???
The instructions tell you to use a "high temp vacuum grease, available at your local scientific supply house"...who the hell has a local scientific supply house? it also says you can use petroleum jelly and i find it works just fine...

[sac4life]

ya i read that i for gods sake there is no where in town i can get high temp vacuum grease. so petroleum grease a. where do you pick that up at. will Willmar every body has a Willmar. or like a home depot or Jerry's??? i just received my all American yesterday trying it out now is that what you have? if so when twisting down the knobs to you just go as tight as you can get them and look around the seal to see if its Even the book said no tools but never stated about how tight you want to get them i just tightened them down as good as i could get them.

[lowshovel1]

what do you actually put inthe ultrasonic ? solution wise...

there are salutions on the market-------I just use distilled water.

[Martin]

Alright you guys. I want to apologize to Needle Jack for posting this, but I have A link for you all so that you can save bundles of money on stovetop sterilizers.

http://www.pressurecooker-outlet.com/americancook.htm

I know that this is a pressure cooker website, but if you pay attention, they are the SAME EXACT ones being sold on Needle Jack, Superior Tattoo, and even Inkcraft.biz. It's not a scam....I've bought one muself and it works great. just make sure you put the right amount of water in the bottom or you will burn the bags.

Hope you guys like this

Martin

[sac4life]

oh no it starts again.

yo Martin this was already discussed in another thread about using other thing besides a true autoclave or sterilizer, its a big no no do you really want to take somebody life and put it at risk because you were to cheep to spent an extra $100 to buy the real thing?

[Martin]

Do disrespect sac, but like I said before. These are the same ones being sold by many tatto supply sites. INCULDING Neelde Jack!!!

[Martin]

I know what you are saying though. I use disposable tubes now. Actually another great deal is to go to technicaltattoosupply.com and they have no-grip disposable tubes for .30 cents a piece. Best deal around.!!!

[liarsenic]

Hey, Pressure cookers are built to stand 15lbs of pressure and autoclaves around 30lbs. It is said that both do a very good job sterilizing instruments (anything stainless). The one thing you need to do is let it sit twice the cycle time of an autoclave. There are downsides of using a pressure cooker though, unlike an autoclave, a pressure cooker does not dry your instruments and is not made to boil dry. With the lack of drying capabilities, people tend to dry them by hand with paper towels. Right there, that's cross contamination, needs to be re-sterilized. To dry your instruments you should get sterile gauze, wrap each piece individually, then store in a CLEAN, DRY area. Once dried, package instruments in autoclave bags.

[BigJon]

Hey, Pressure cookers are built to stand 15lbs of pressure and autoclaves around 30lbs. It is said that both do a very good job sterilizing instruments (anything stainless). The one thing you need to do is let it sit twice the cycle time of an autoclave. There are downsides of using a pressure cooker though, unlike an autoclave, a pressure cooker does not dry your instruments and is not made to boil dry. With the lack of drying capabilities, people tend to dry them by hand with paper towels. Right there, that's cross contamination, needs to be re-sterilized. To dry your instruments you should get sterile gauze, wrap each piece individually, then store in a CLEAN, DRY area. Once dried, package instruments in autoclave bags.

Listen bro i dont want to start anything here just read the previous posts before you post and try not to give misinformation. pretty much everything you the above post is wrong. You cant use a pressure cooker (not gonna argue that one), and you bag your stuff before you clave it. Nuff said dont want to start an arguement here

[BigJon]

Alright you guys. I want to apologize to Needle Jack for posting this, but I have A link for you all so that you can save bundles of money on stovetop sterilizers.

http://www.pressurecooker-outlet.com/americancook.htm

I know that this is a pressure cooker website, but if you pay attention, they are the SAME EXACT ones being sold on Needle Jack, Superior Tattoo, and even Inkcraft.biz. It's not a scam....I've bought one muself and it works great. just make sure you put the right amount of water in the bottom or you will burn the bags.

Hope you guys like this

Martin

these are pictures of claves bro...if you bought one and it was an all american good for you ...kudos on finding a killer deal.
and for 160 bones now there really is no excuse for anyone to not have one, so i guess well never see the pressure cooker post ever agian....LOL (sorry i have a bad sence of humor)

[amoroque]

I got one too, and it has worked great! It has all the instructions you need and in my opinion would be very very hard to blow up.

[liarsenic]

Listen bro i dont want to start anything here just read the previous posts before you post and try not to give misinformation. pretty much everything you the above post is wrong. You cant use a pressure cooker (not gonna argue that one), and you bag your stuff before you clave it. Nuff said dont want to start an arguement here


yea, you are right ofcourse about bagging before claving, but i didnt mention it because this was a pressure cooker. But i believe this is how you would do it with a pressure cooker. But yeah, save money, buy an autoclave, it's made for what you want to do. You can get those prestige 2100's for around 800$, it's the most basic model but it works. Ofcourse you could go all out and buy a Ritter M9 for almost 4grand, but I strongly doubt that you would need a top pf the line model like that. I have an old Ritter, not the m9, it's an easyclave, works great, passes spore test like nothing. Again, pressure cookers can sterilize, but find another way to do it, I just posted this cause I figured it would work, blah, just get a clave :S

[Chrip]

No offence to big jon, but sorry man thoese are pressure cookers? not 1 mention on that site indicates that they are otherwise! please note anyone who buys these are getting a pressure cooker nothing else, its not a stove top steriliser. also they're not advisable for ceramic, glass or halogen hobs or gas burners!! tbh spend the extra money for a clave! laying good ink feels great...remember giving someone a potential life threating desease doesn't!!

[BigJon]

Thanks for clearing that up bro.....

[tat2dndn]

Hi sac4life, I have had my ELECTRIC All American for 6 yrs. With the proper care and maintenece you will pleased with yours as I am with mine. First I use your standard run of the mill vasiline prorolleum jelly get it anywhere. Before you start your sterilization process apply a thin layer on the beveled edge of the container. Set you lid on making sure the steam ejection tube goes into the channel in the inner basket, watch not to crimp the tube. When lid is down and you have twisted it to the lock position look all the around the unit at the gap make sure it even, then you can start tightening down the locking knobs. This only need to be done hand tight. Then start as your instructions suggest. Sorry I was so long winded but I hope I helped. As for the rest of you just a suggestion if you are serious please spend the extra money and get a real clave.

[unforgiven]

oooooooooooooookaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy
admins, please, please, SHUT THIS F'N THREAD DOWN NOW BEFORE IT ALL HAPPENS AGAIN!!!

[the hermit]

oooooooooooooookaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy
admins, please, please, SHUT THIS F'N THREAD DOWN NOW BEFORE IT ALL HAPPENS AGAIN!!! Sorry Unforgiven....to late...it's happened, I can only apologise for me starting it a couple of months ago, Not much I can say man!

[unforgiven]

the problem is that even on medical research pages you will find "proof" that even a pressure cooker will do the same job!!! sooo, let's let sleeping dogs lie and accept the facts, use a safe sterilizer folks, no matter the brand, or type (depending on your local laws) and please use it safely and according to directions.
i'm done.

[ChaChaChaChanges]

seriously. if you can afford a hundred dollar pressure cooker. save up for another week or two and get an actual sterilizer. Sterilization is no place to play Macgyver.

[RAYRAYFROMTAMPABAY]

..............wow.

[richart]

In the UK we have no choice, if you wanna be certified, you HAVE to have a vacume type autoclave, stovetops are not allowed, neither are dry heat.

[RAYRAYFROMTAMPABAY]

I was just saying "wow" to the fervency attached to the subject matter...not the type of sterilization unit anyone uses.

I'm a firm believer in the utilization of proper sterilization,be it stove top or a $1,000 model...as long as it does the job properly and no one is laid across the train tracks of a life threatening disease for a fucking tattoo.

On a lighter note...I would like to wish all of my brothers here in the states and in the U.K. a merry Christmas and happy holidaze.

Drink one for me,

RAY RAY FROM TAMPA BAY

[unforgiven]

ahem, ummm do canucks not count in on that wee lil drinkie-poo ray?
lmfao
merry xmas to all

[RAYRAYFROMTAMPABAY]

Let me rephrase....I want the "whole" world to have a great holiday!!
I'm ordering drinks for the entire planet and unforgiven has graciously said that I could put it on his tab! lmao. So everyone be sure and thank him.

Cheer-n-beers,
Ray Ray

[unforgiven]

ouch!!!
but ummm happy holidays all!!!

darryl