Quick color question

[Dakotaman]

Yep, I am new, glad I found this place. I am hours away from any tattoo artists, and am learning from books. Anyway here goes, could I put a lighter color on top of a darker color? If so would it cover the darker color or mix or what? This is dark blue and light blue. Also I tried to fill in a large area with color and I used a flat needle, I think it was 12 headed. It just tore my skin up. So then I tried a six round and now I have more spiral lines and not a solid color. Could someone give me some ideas on how to approve. Skin is way different that grapefruit and meleons. Thanks!

[sac4life]

if you use a lighter color on top of a darker say white over blue or light blue over dark blue you half to think whats going on under the skin the two colors are mixing together so if i put white over blue it will come out light blue depending how much ink you add. the same would go with the light blue it would turn it lighter depending on how dark the dark blue and how light the light blue is if the colors are very similar you might see no difference at all and about the ink not going in sold first what kind of ink are you using? is your machine set up for coloring and how are you going about putting the color in? it could be a number of different things

[timmy]

Welcome to the forum Dakotaman,this is a great place with alot of really good people,take your time reading through all the other post,there are already alot of answers to your question and some.Just pull up a comfortable chair because like i said,lots of info packed in this forum,glad you could join us.Be safe.

[krazy_tattooist]

if tore up your skin using a magnum/flat you either went in on the wrong angle or went to deep... most likely is the wrong angle though. as for colors covering darker colors i cant see it myself but purple can cover black so who knows lol like sac4life said it will lighten it but id guess a tiny bit and you probally need to touch it up alot. il let you know for sure in a week or 2 i have a dark blue i need to cover with a much brighter neon kind of blue on my hand so as soon as the ink arrives il give it ago and let you know how it come out

[brokenspoke]

New to the forum and loving it! Dakotaman, make sure your needles are traveling straight up and down, no side quiver. If needles are not straight up and down you can really do some damage. You should be able to clearly see each needle under loup while machine is running.

[untitled_again]

in my opinion it sounds like you need to concentrate more on technique and machine set up than mixing colors. coloring is difficult to get into espcially when theres no one around to actually show you (hands on) and tell you what your doing wrong.

[Dakotaman]

Alright then thanks for all the good information. I have been buying these colors called 'Prizm Colors' from Superior tattoo. Not sure of the machine set ups but I turn down the power pack all the way like my book says. The angle may be at least part of my problem. I am sure I must sound like the novice of the year, and probably am, thanks for your patience!

[sac4life]

i had some of those colors when i first started out frankly they suck. i switched to scream brand and was good for a long time had no problems until i tried my light purple color that just would not go in the skin. everybody said to try out other inks now I'm trying out starbrite ink well see how they work out for me ill keep you posted. but what i was trying to say you might want to try some new inks out because prizm inks suck no matter how you use them

[untitled_again]

i started with prizms and the colors would never seem to stay in. i switched to millenium which seemed to work fine.

[TonyTouchTat2]

Welcome Dakotaman,

To answer your question from my experience it will mix, however I have noticed (again in most of my experience) that the first color layed seems to continue to be dominant over the top layer. Now from what I have learned in about the last week or so that I have been a member in this forum is....

Having your machine tuned is VERY IMPORTANT!! Pacience, is another. I would start with reading about tuning your machines, and another very important thing I learned here is LISTEN to what the senior members here tell you. Its like virtual appreticeship. If they say read and search or buy. Then read and search and buy. I say thanks to all the members that helped me tune my machines and sort out which one works best for what. Yesterday I blazed through 2 tats each names in arabic about 7 inches high in 3 hours solid black! Thanks guys! I owe some beers huh?

[sac4life]

yo tonytouchtat2 i hope i spelled that right

well i have been hearing about allot of people getting Arabic tattoos. i would like to see some of your work post some pictures

and tony is right tuning your machine is number one because even with the best ink money or beer can buy you wont get that ink in good with out a properly tuned machine. good advice bro

[TonyTouchTat2]

Here is the link to 1 of the 2 arabic tattoos I did Friday night. Now I know I am going to receive alot of feedback because of this tat. But all I can say in my defense is HE WAS A MOVER!! All criticism is welcome. I hope to grab the first dude tonight and that tattoo is alot better, reason I think is that the 1st guy (who's pic I dont have right now, has very light colored skin, and softer skin it was easy packing in the black.) Now the second guy besides having a lower tolerance for pain and moved alot, I found that using the same 9rl (I mean size not the same needle) I had a harder time making the outline. So I had to step up the volts a bit. Afraid to mess him up for as much as he moved here is the end product. I told him I wanted to see him in about 3 weeks to go over whatever didnt take (which I dont think is much but you all will let me know.)

http://tonytouchtattoo.com/images/ttt_iktur.jpg

Ok. What does the tat say? The name is Hector but in arabic they dont have the h sound so it is translated to ik-tur and that is what you read from top down on this tat.

[FatFreddyFreekowtski]

Ask the guy who got the tattoo.

Hopefully that isn't an expletive in Arabic.

[FatFreddyFreekowtski]

Oh, and a buddy of mine from the UAE who speaks Arabic as a first language says that tattoo doesn't say anything. It's meaningless.

[TonyTouchTat2]

Oh, and a buddy of mine from the UAE who speaks Arabic as a first language says that tattoo doesn't say anything. It's meaningless.

After reading your post I got worried and ran across the street to where the owners of the store are Arab. No disrespect intended but she verified that it was in fact correct and says "Iktor" which is how any arab speaking person would say the name Hector. Even in Sanscrit is pretty much the same. In one I thank you because if it wasnt for your post I would have doubted the page that made the translation (which the client found) I almost called him to tell him that it meant nothing.

Here is the link where I got it from please pass it to your friend.

http://lexiquetos.ohui.net/

The page is in spanish but not hard to find what your looking for like nombres = names Arabe = Arab.

I dont read or speak arab ( I know some words from my service in Desert Storm). But have your friend take another look or get a second opinion so far every arab person I could find in Old San Juan affirms it is correct and is even flattered that I found it.

As far as color goes pos or neg feedback is welcome or recommendations.

[sac4life]

they don't speak Arab they speak Arabic. thats like saying American speak American.

[TonyTouchTat2]

Thanks but you know what I meant. And in some countries they would say americans speak american because of how much we have changed the original language.

Next is someone wanted to see an ARABIC writing tat and thats what I did. Now seriously if a client brings me something that they want tattooed I dont really care if it says what they think it does or not. I just give them what they want (since I dont read or speak any language that uses symbols other than the 26 letters in english or 28 in spanish ). I hope that I satisfied the curiousity of the arabic writing. And maybe gave a valuable resourse for others here to find chinese, sanskrit, ARABIC, and even egyptian hierloglyphs ( I may have spelled that wrong)

since this thread started with coloring I was really hoping someone could give me both the good the bad and the ugly of how it came out.

[voodoo]

we speak american english not queens english.....

[TonyTouchTat2]

I can agree to that!

[FatFreddyFreekowtski]

I didn't say it wasn't lettering that made sounds.

What I said was that the lettering had no meaning.

You could pronounce "sdffwuyur" but it has no meaning in English.

[TonyTouchTat2]

My apologies for the misunderstanding. I bet you too would have jumped its 7 inches long when I read "meaninless" I saw COVERUP or even worse pay for removal AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! I hope everyone has checked out the link.

[FatFreddyFreekowtski]

I should have been clearer.

I asked my buddy in the UAE if that formed a valid word in Arabic.

He said, no, that's not a word, that has no meaning in Arabic.

By "meaning" I meant that someone could parse the letters and wonder why the guy had "virgin goatburger" on his arm, for example.

[TonyTouchTat2]

By "meaning" I meant that someone could parse the letters and wonder why the guy had "virgin goatburger" on his arm, for example.

LOL, EXACTLY LMAO!

[wickedstylesink]

but freddy i just asked my friend from th uae and he sed it does have meaning, rekons it means u just been scratched ;)

dont you have enough fun talking shit to people on that other forum?
dont come here and start that shit!!