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lotsix
08-23-2006, 12:58 AM
which brand of ink has the best "basic" set of colors right now. I see they are ranging between 80 and 150 bucks...which is the best bang for the buck? I've been using Sumi black and a few assorted intenze and starbrite colors as pieces call for them.
also...as far as white goes, what technique for a bright solid hue? (i know sometimes it's hard to see when it's getting in there...any tips?)

the colorist
08-23-2006, 01:05 AM
pick your own colors.sample sets are often the colors that dont sell readily.get your primary,secondary colors,your 2 browns,black and white.from this arrangement you can create any color value or hue.*
*exceptions would be magenta,cyan and maybe a few others

lotsix
08-23-2006, 01:07 AM
excellent point...i also see the shite they throw into the sets...this would allow me to get what i want and need first...and to learn a bit about mixing which i'll surely need to dive into next either way.

thanks

the colorist
08-23-2006, 01:10 AM
brands that are vibrant and heal bright in my experience is intenze and millenium.unique 1.oz has good healing and a broad assortment of rich hues(example; very deep red purple to firey red orange).mix and match brands for the best results

the colorist
08-23-2006, 01:26 AM
excellent point...i also see the shite they throw into the sets...this would allow me to get what i want and need first...and to learn a bit about mixing which i'll surely need to dive into next either way.

thanksbest way to learn to mix is to study the values/hues on a color wheel from the darkest purples,blues and greens.to the medium values of reds orange and med greens to your high value yellows and whites.high values of blues purples and orange are tints that are mixed with white.i dont consider them true high hues because they are the results of blending its base value with white.think of the color wheel in the same way you hear the musical scales.from the darkest bass note to the highest treble notes.colors visually respond in the same manner.visual frequencies.colors mixed with white are generally highlighting values.like tinny bells and cymbals.high frenquenies

the colorist
08-23-2006, 01:37 AM
intenze inks are thick and tend to dry on the tip.keep distilled water on hand,if you want intenze to heal full strength then dip and slightly rinse your tip to cut down on the dried buildup.dont dilute the inks in your cap,if they tend to dry in the cap,moisten with a few drops of distilled water.if you want a tint for a color wash the cut with distilled water.how vibrant of pastel the color will be will be determined by the amount of water added

lotsix
08-23-2006, 01:46 AM
excellent description for mixing...and i've definetely noticed the drying of intenze ink...annoyed the hell out of me, i typically wiped my tip with a paper towel...the water makes sense.

i'll start mixing asap, thanks for the great advice!

the colorist
08-23-2006, 06:35 AM
hope this helps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Byrcolorwheel.png

the colorist
08-23-2006, 08:10 AM
Problems

The RYB space receives criticism for not being able to produce all perceivable colors. In particular, several bright shades of Green, Cyan, and Magenta are not producable from any combination of Red, Yellow, and Blue (and are conspicuously absent from the RYB color wheel).

The reason for this is due to the darkness of Red and Blue. In the RGB color space the colors are added, thus you start with levels of dark colors which are added to produce lighter colors. RYB uses pigments, which are not added, and thus combining colors using the RYB color system will result in a darker color. Because of this it is impossible to create magenta, because its value would normally be the combined value of Red and Blue, but combining them using pigments creates a darker color (namely purple or violet). Because of this any color in between red and blue must be darker than red and blue, and any color between yellow and red or yellow and blue must be darker than yellow.

This incomplete coverage furthermore produces an overall bias to the color space. On the color wheel one can see that the RYB primary colors Red, Yellow, and Blue, are complemented by the secondary colors Green, Purple, and Orange respectively. In an accurate color space mixing a color with its complement would produce a neutral shade of gray. However mixing any primary color with its complement (such as Red and Green) in RYB produces a shade of brown, demonstrating the brown bias of the RYB space.