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ss9440
09-01-2006, 07:58 PM
A few questions on blow outs.....

Looks to be various degrees of them, can you tell by looking if it was too deep or just bad angle?

Will they fade out with time as the pigment disperses?

Or do you have to have them covered with something else to lock the ink in place and keep it from getting blobbier? ( techinical word for it I think....)

Thanks in advance!

Comrad
09-01-2006, 08:02 PM
also, How can the angle of the needle create blowouts ? im curious as to this.

krazy_tattooist
09-02-2006, 01:53 PM
pretty much what dankchoppa said.... if you dont understand it take a pencil and some paper and draw a line then angle the pencil further and further... your notice the line gets thicker and darker, but you would still have to be going pretty deep for it to blow out, most people who go in on the wrong angle the lines fade because it kind of skips a jump in the skin if that make sense. some tats blow out just cus the lines are to close together and after time they kind of fade into one wich is not really the artists fault its more the design.could also be the ink your using too like if its really watery it could disperse more than a thicker ink

Comrad
09-03-2006, 01:55 PM
Thank you.

Thats makes perfect sense! appart from elastic bands thats cleared up some questions I had.

Although ive been scratching I always use the same angle, but never thought what would happen if it were to change mid line.

wickedstylesink
09-04-2006, 10:16 AM
Thank you.

Thats makes perfect sense! appart from elastic bands thats cleared up some questions I had.

Although ive been scratching I always use the same angle, but never thought what would happen if it were to change mid line.

never heard someone call themselves a scratcher! are you aware of the meaning of the term?

xxxMDKxxx@Gmail.com
09-04-2006, 10:21 AM
never heard someone call themselves a scratcher! are you aware of the meaning of the term?

It mainly means someone that tattoos out of there house.

Martin
09-05-2006, 01:54 AM
hey guys,
how do you post pics right on the forum. I might have something that could help.

Martin
09-05-2006, 02:27 AM
nevermind.....
try this link: http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Business/DragonButterfly/TattooProcess.html

The machine should actually be a little larger in comparison to the cross section of skin. And The skin in the cross section doesnt appear to be stretched out as it would during a tattoo. But this will give people a general idea of how deep you can go before a blowout.

Comrad
09-05-2006, 03:48 PM
yeah im generally aware of what the term 'scratching' means, although now you mention it perhaps i should see a doctor.

the elastic band question was due to me wondering how much tension you need put on the needle when the bands are wrapped around the coil/frame and needle - is it just to hold the band in place if not is it essential ?

Martin
09-05-2006, 03:59 PM
Your not tattoing people yet are you? please say no!!

yes, it's to hold the needle on. and it depends on the size of the band on how many times you wrap it. too much tension and your machine wont run right. you'll see. hopefully on fruit.

"is it essential?"----OMG! Think about how fast that needle is moving. And think of what would happen if it came off the end of the A-bar. The A-bar would smack that bitch 2 inches into the flesh. Talk about a blow out. More like a blow through!!!! OUCH!!!

ink_freak
09-05-2006, 05:15 PM
im sorry but in my eyes a scratcher is aperson who knows nothing about tattoing and doesnt care about f-ing up soebosy and has no regard for safety i tattoo out of my house and id be pissed to be called a scratcher so dont call yourself a scratcher but a learning artist just my 2 cents

wickedstylesink
09-05-2006, 06:25 PM
im sorry but in my eyes a scratcher is aperson who knows nothing about tattoing and doesnt care about f-ing up soebosy and has no regard for safety i tattoo out of my house and id be pissed to be called a scratcher so dont call yourself a scratcher but a learning artist just my 2 cents

yeah inkfreak thats what i was saying , even before i started tattooing and was just hanging out at my friends shop , i was always under the impression that "scratcher" was a derogitory term for some one who had little skill , or complete disregard for safety or cleanliness, and / or used homemade equipment.
perhaps "learner" is a more accurate term?
-------------------------wicked joe-----------------

Rockabillytattoo
09-06-2006, 06:35 AM
nevermind.....
try this link: http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Business/DragonButterfly/TattooProcess.html

The machine should actually be a little larger in comparison to the cross section of skin. And The skin in the cross section doesnt appear to be stretched out as it would during a tattoo. But this will give people a general idea of how deep you can go before a blowout.
Nice link Martin!!

Rock on! (safely in your case)

the colorist
09-06-2006, 06:55 AM
yeah im generally aware of what the term 'scratching' means, although now you mention it perhaps i should see a doctor.

the elastic band question was due to me wondering how much tension you need put on the needle when the bands are wrapped around the coil/frame and needle - is it just to hold the band in place if not is it essential ?
bands are for keepimg the needle from swaying or bouncing around in the tube/tip

pookie
09-06-2006, 09:45 AM
Well said ink freak, Im not throwin accusations to anyone but i have no time for ppl who dont care for the art or persons safety.
It makes ppl working from home like myself looked down on all the time.

the colorist
09-06-2006, 09:59 AM
im sorry but in my eyes a scratcher is aperson who knows nothing about tattoing and doesnt care about f-ing up soebosy and has no regard for safety i tattoo out of my house and id be pissed to be called a scratcher so dont call yourself a scratcher but a learning artist just my 2 cents
self apprentice maybe?

Martin
09-06-2006, 11:03 AM
bands are for keepimg the needle from swaying or bouncing around in the tube/tip


Yeah, forgot to mention that. I guess I was more focused on the fact that he was asking if it was essential.

NHBB1
09-13-2006, 09:16 PM
im sorry but in my eyes a scratcher is aperson who knows nothing about tattoing and doesnt care about f-ing up soebosy and has no regard for safety i tattoo out of my house and id be pissed to be called a scratcher so dont call yourself a scratcher but a learning artist just my 2 cents

this is essentially how I view the term as well. someone buys a kit and just goes off on real skin with no concern of contamination and no real understanding of the art.

I have always been self taught in any endeavor that I pursue... whether that be programming when I was younger, running a business as I got older... and the same for tattooing now. when I am ready and have enough hours working with synthetics and feel confident to move to the skin medium I will. I have an extreme concern over safety for myself and whoever I may eventually work on... unfortunately there are so many out there that think nothing of these elements. hence, people get diseases/shitty tattoos and those who may do good work outside of a shop get a terrible rep due to the bad seeds out there. shit, half the stuff I see come out of legit shops looks like absolute crap.. still people wear them with pride. if they love the work I won't say a thing, but if they are obviously disappointed with the shitty ink they got, I will concur and admit that it does indeed look like shit and try to refer them to someone good who can coverup or touch things up to make it presentable.